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	<title>Comments on: Debate Forum Right, 10/4/11</title>
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		<title>By: Dave Landon</title>
		<link>http://www.daytoncitypaper.com/debate-forum-right-10411/comment-page-1/#comment-1614</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Landon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 23:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well ... she&#039;s new to the Debate Forum, which might explain her writing style.  It takes a while to find the right mixture of making a factually erudite argument and dismissing the other side as being totally devoid of all reason. Her writing is very emotionally charged but make no mistake ... she is one very smart lady! I think you will see her grow into the job.  In the mean time I appreciate your reading my column ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well &#8230; she&#8217;s new to the Debate Forum, which might explain her writing style.  It takes a while to find the right mixture of making a factually erudite argument and dismissing the other side as being totally devoid of all reason. Her writing is very emotionally charged but make no mistake &#8230; she is one very smart lady! I think you will see her grow into the job.  In the mean time I appreciate your reading my column &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 22:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Landon,

I agree with your central premise here: the Democrats should have supported that plan. It&#039;s not the very best way to approach redistricting, in my view, but it&#039;s considerably better than the status quo. It was cynical and foolish of them not to support that plan.

I disagree, however,that their failure to do so somehow justifies the blatant partisan gerrymandering that&#039;s taking place now. It was wrong in 1971 and 1981, it&#039;s wrong today, and it&#039;ll be wrong in 2021. The failure to pass the Husted plan was a mistake, but it doesn&#039;t justify partisan gerrymandering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Landon,</p>
<p>I agree with your central premise here: the Democrats should have supported that plan. It&#8217;s not the very best way to approach redistricting, in my view, but it&#8217;s considerably better than the status quo. It was cynical and foolish of them not to support that plan.</p>
<p>I disagree, however,that their failure to do so somehow justifies the blatant partisan gerrymandering that&#8217;s taking place now. It was wrong in 1971 and 1981, it&#8217;s wrong today, and it&#8217;ll be wrong in 2021. The failure to pass the Husted plan was a mistake, but it doesn&#8217;t justify partisan gerrymandering.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Landon</title>
		<link>http://www.daytoncitypaper.com/debate-forum-right-10411/comment-page-1/#comment-1608</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Landon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 17:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, 

In past years, you would be correct.  But the fact is that today the GOP, while it holds power is offering the same Husted legislation as it offered when they were not in power. This legislation may not be perfect, but it would go a long way to end the practice. This is unusual for a group in power to give up part of their power. They realize that no one knows who will be in charge in 2021 and now is the time to compromise.

Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, </p>
<p>In past years, you would be correct.  But the fact is that today the GOP, while it holds power is offering the same Husted legislation as it offered when they were not in power. This legislation may not be perfect, but it would go a long way to end the practice. This is unusual for a group in power to give up part of their power. They realize that no one knows who will be in charge in 2021 and now is the time to compromise.</p>
<p>Dave</p>
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		<title>By: Jobs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jobs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 09:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow... All the screaming and tantrum-throwing by the chick over at the &quot;debate forum left&quot; side is kind of devoid of any of the substantive facts you present here.  

I think I&#039;ll read this side from now on.  She&#039;s angry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230; All the screaming and tantrum-throwing by the chick over at the &#8220;debate forum left&#8221; side is kind of devoid of any of the substantive facts you present here.  </p>
<p>I think I&#8217;ll read this side from now on.  She&#8217;s angry.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Luedtke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Luedtke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 02:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But of course when Democrats were in power, they didn&#039;t want to give the minority such influence. Republicans would reject out of hand any comparable proposal today since they&#039;re in power. In our political system, winner takes all.

But in the larger perspective, I didn&#039;t hear Democrats calling for a fairer scheme when they controlled most districts over the last 100 years. They&#039;re only whining because they&#039;re losing. I doubt there was ever a newspaper debate on this issue when redistricting favored Democrats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But of course when Democrats were in power, they didn&#8217;t want to give the minority such influence. Republicans would reject out of hand any comparable proposal today since they&#8217;re in power. In our political system, winner takes all.</p>
<p>But in the larger perspective, I didn&#8217;t hear Democrats calling for a fairer scheme when they controlled most districts over the last 100 years. They&#8217;re only whining because they&#8217;re losing. I doubt there was ever a newspaper debate on this issue when redistricting favored Democrats.</p>
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