Earnie Shavers Power pt. 3

 

This is the crux of his commentary concerning Shavers vs. heavyweights across the board.
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Here are the real statistics of Shavers, not some nostalgic fantasies:

Name ▲ KO’ratio (sub-200 opponents) KO’ratio (200+ lbs opponents) ○ KO’ratio (215+ lbs opponents) ○
·Earnie Shavers 90.9% 68.4% 47.8% (11of23)
·Evander Holyfield 77.7% 40.0% 34.4% (10of29)
·Joe Frazier 100.0% 50.0% 45.4% (5of11)
·Larry Holmes 50.0% 58.2% 45.9% (17of37)
·Lennox Lewis 75.6% 75.0% (27of36)
·Michael Moorer 100.0% 51.4% 46.1% (12of26)
·Mike Tyson 100.0% 78.0% 73.6% (28of38)
·Muhammad Ali 79.1% 40.5% 33.3% (5of15)
·Tomasz Adamek 63.8% 62.5% 40.0% (2of5)
·Wladimir Klitschko 87.5% 87.5% (42of48)

{still quoting} Since 215+ lbs is the de facto entry point for heavyweights nowadays (and we are generous here since the average opponent weight of Wladimir Klitschko is 233 lbs) this means that Earnie Shavers would be considered a featherfist nowadays.

In other words: Shavers would be a nobody when it comes to power. His power is dropping considerably the heavier the opponents get and already his 200+KO’ratio (68%) is nothing special.

Yes, that’s how much the division changed (= how much more powerful it got) compared to Ali’s times.

Wladimir Klitschko has faced 20 opponents
with a better 215+ KO’ratio than Earnie Shavers.

As you can see from the table above other boxers have an even worse KO’performance than Shavers (e.g. Joe Frazier or Clay/Ali), but even Shavers’ better KO’ratio would pose no threat nowadays (except for the usual “hitter’s chance”).

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Everything in that entire body of text is complete s-. The idea that you can gauge a fighter’s relative power simply by looking at a chart that describes a collection of KO’s at what weights is – as proved by my last commentary – is nothing more than a statement of the profound ignorance of Princess {crude reference to the female anatomy} Facts here.

Now.

I will go over this like a real man.

The first red flag is that a blown up light heavyweight like Michael Moorer is even included in this list. His knockout percentage below 199 lbs. is based exclusively in a light heavyweight division that is categorically and profoundly the worst collection of bullsh- fighters in the history of the sport. I’m not kidding, and that is not hyperbolic. There has never been a worse division in any era at any weight class. To ram that home, I know a sh–ton about boxing and probably more than many observers, and I’ve demonstrated that over and over by calling fights correctly when people on ESPN can’t get their shit together. For fuck sake, they had Pacquiao expected to win the fight against Mayweather. Enough said…

I’ll just make it clear since that paragraph contained a lot. Michael Moorer’s light heavyweight record is referenced by our dear commentator…

…in a list that is supposed to indicate the performance of heavyweights. Right there you know you’re dealing with an ignorant schmuck.

The same is true of Tomasz Adameck. He made the jump the heavyweight because Chad Dawson beat the living s- out of him at light heavyweight, and his run of wins at heavyweight came exclusively against people I’ve never heard of and decent fighters who were pushing 40. So those two need to go right now.

Of the people remaining on that list, I have two things to say. First, the only fighters he couldn’t have drawn from watching boxing after 1991 are Holmes, Ali, and Frazier. Right there, we have a problem. That means that he selected fighters he can remember from his lifetime, and three names that are so obviously well known that including them indicates nothing about his boxing scholarship…EXCEPT…that Ali has no business on that list. Hmm. Even more revealing.

To exclude Marciano, Foreman, Liston, Dempsey, and Joe Lewis just to name a few, means that we shouldn’t even be reading this. However, “it’s always worth examining first principles blah, blah, blah”, right?

Also of note, on that list there are a combined 4 gold medals in the Olympics and a bronze. The bronze was Holyfield’s, and the only reason he didn’t win gold was because the ref inexplicably ruled a knockout at the bell a DQ for hitting late. On the podium, the gold medal winner actually drug him up to the gold medal platform, as not only did he get fucked, but he had literally knocked out every single person he faced with no clear quality opposition between him and Olympic glory. So…five gold medals. The late, great Emanuel Steward always maintained that a great boxer should have a strong amateur background so as to understand the tricks of the trade. Remember what I said about slippery fighters? Yeah.

Next. If we are talking power, we are talking one punch. Throw, connect, destroy. No wearing a guy down with power or potshots over 11 rounds – none of that s-. One punch and done.

On that list, there are two certified candidates for that title besides Shavers- Tyson and Holmes – and one who should probably be in the mix: Lennox Lewis. Everyone else consistently wore their men down over time, and eventually either knocked them out from sheer inability to defend themselves – often with hand speed and conditioning as a contributing factors – or got the fight stopped by someone involved in the situation who could do so.

Lennox Lewis does require at least a nod of the head here. He is one of an extraordinarily small fraternity of men who defeated everyone they faced. He did in fact lose twice by KO, but he got his revenge by KO in the rematches. I will also take my hat off that he made fights with at least decent – well, kind of not s-y anyway – opposition at a time when the heavyweight division was very low on talent. Going through the list however, I will only give him credit for facing two, maybe three if I’m generous, fighters who had any business in the ring with him. Other than that, he fought a shot Holyfield, a shot Tyson, and a shot Frank Bruno. It’s really hard to include him in the debate but for the fact that I’ve watched all his fights and can make some educated inferences as to how he would have fared against better opposition.

Of the three prime opponents, the only real test he had was against Vitali Klitschko, which was his last fight. He was horrifically out of shape because his original opponent backed out a week before the fight, and there’s quite a bit of debate to be had as to whether or not Vitali’s camp paid some step-aside money so as to get in the ring while he was in bad shape. Despite that Lewis was able to stop him, but only on cuts, not concussion.

In short, Lewis was so much better than everyone else that he was able to deliver extremely clean shots against mediocre defenses. Again, power cannot be determined by accurate punches – only punches that shouldn’t knock someone out or cause serious issues that wouldn’t otherwise be there with another fighter.

So now we come to it: the Klitschko rim job.

First and foremost, we need to consider a few criteria:

1. The difference between a KO and a TKO. A KO means you f-ed a man up so badly he was unable to get his s- together for a minimum of 10 seconds, or at least got up but was so out of it the ref stopped the fight because he may as well have been dead. A TKO on the other hand is one of two things: A fight that is stopped because there is a three knockdown rule in effect, meaning that if you get knocked down three times the fight is over even if you’re not hurt, or you’re on your feet but the ref stops it you’ve just taken too many clean shots, and allowing the fight to continue would be a futile effort resulting in a fighter taking wholly unnecessary punishment.

If we’re talking power, there is a biiiiig difference between those two. One is concussive, the other cumulative. I’ll make the comparison as simple as I can.

The following is KO/TKO/Decision wins for all winning fights.

Earnie Shavers:  56/13/5 – total wins: 74  KO’s in 3 rounds or less:  50

Wladimir Klitschko: 20/33/8 – total wins: 64 KO’s in 3 rounds or less: 29

I think maybe we’re almost done, but I never like to leave the utter ownership of an idiot at the bell Although that’s enough to shut up that ignorant f- forever as far as I’m concerned, I want to punish him for a while.

Let’s talk competition…

The first time Klitschko faced somebody I’ve ever heard of – Ross Purrity, a good fighter at best and a pretty damn well forgettable fighter if I’m honest – Klitschko got knocked the f- out. The next one is Monte Barrett, and that’s only because I’m a scholar of the game. Klitschko TKO’s him in 7, so he certainly didn’t destroy him, and Barrett isn’t really what I would call a top 15 contender in any era except this one – the absolute sh-iest condition the heavyweight division has ever been in in the history of the sport. By a significant margin.

Conversely, Shavers fought in the absolute greatest condition the heavyweight division has ever been in in the history of the sport. By a significant margin.

His next fight was against Chris Byrd, a blown up light heavyweight who only beat his brother Vitali Klitschko because Vitali tore his rotator cuff and quit on his stool like a wuss despite being up a s- ton of points  and moving towards a KO. In contrast, his brother Wladimir was only able to get a decision win.

The next four went like this:

Francis Botha – a pudgy twerp who got TKO’d.

2. Ray Mercer…at 41 years of age and so far past his prime it lets you know exactly how s-ty the division had gotten.  A TKO by the way.

3.  Jameel McCline – a fighter who managed to get a shot by defeating Shannon Briggs – a man with power and no defense who was simply outboxed.

4.  Corrie Sanders – Who served up Klitschko’s second loss by knocking his f-ingass out.

Pushing on to the current status of his career, he fought only a few guys of note, all of whom put up basically zero fight and ran. If I am pressed and feeling extraordinarily generous I can bring myself to name only one fighter – Ray Mercer – would could have POSSIBLY found his way into the top 10 of the heavyweight division Shavers had to fight in, and he was way past his prime. Also, Klitschko’s brother Vitali was kicked off the Ukrainian national kickboxing team for failing a PED test, and if we’re honest, one look at Wladimir and it’s pretty clear what was going on.

And even if we walk to talk about competitiveness in the Golden Era of Ali and friends, Klitschko is 6’6” and 246 lbs. He has a good jab, and that’s it. Nothing else about his game is remarkable, and if you watch the tapes, when he gets a stoppage it’s almost always attrition.

Finally, let’s take a look at his attributes as compared to great fighters of the past. Principle concerns would be, according to know-nothing-asshole writer dude, he argues that sheer physical attributes would make the difference between yesteryear and today.

I think rather not, actually.

The Tale of the Tape

Height

Klitschko: 6’6”    246 lbs.    81′ reach

Foreman: 6’4”    260 lbs.    82′ reach

Ali:           6’3′     223 lbs.    78′ reach

Shavers:  6’0”    211 lbs.     80′ reach – right there, the weight tells you everything you need to know about his power

Lyle:         6’3”    219 lbs.    77′ reach

Holmes:   6’3”    254 lbs.    81′ reach

Norton:    6’3”    220 lbs.    80′ reach

Liston:     6’1”    219 lbs.    84 ‘ reach – I didn’t talk about him much, but Ali beat him for the title. He was so scary that Ali’s handlers were bordering on crying out of fear when he fought him. Had a jab like a goddamn telephone pole – Klitschko’s best punch, by the way – and it was basically like a straight right hand.

Frazier:   5’11”   229 lbs.    73′ reach. – All I’m going to say is that he’s the only man to copy the ducking style of Henry Armstrong, and look what he did to Ali in 71. In essence, he’s a short man that made tall guys punch down, thereby exposing their face to his obscene left hook. I’ve heard it said that Frazier’s left hook was responsible for damaging more livers than any other punch in boxing. The only man who proved too powerful for him was Foreman, and I’m sorry to say, but Klitschko is no George Foreman.

Bugner:  6’4”   273 lbs.     82’ reach – look, we’re already on the second tier guys and I think at the very least Bugner would have given Klitschko a severe beating…particularly given Klitschko’s suspect chin.

Can I stop now? You tell me: Do you seriously think this dude can carry their jockstraps? Absolutely f-ing not. A few inches in height and no noticeable reach advantage, and this guy is toast. Do I think he could beat even an advanced Ali? No. Foreman? No. Lyle? No. Holmes? No. Norton? No. Frazier? Honestly, even giving away the height and reach I kind of doubt it. If he could beat a prime Ali  – not to speak of knocking him down – I just don’t see it happening. No way no how.

Shavers? Possibly, but I doubt it. Klitschko simply can’t take a shot well enough for that s-.

Oh, and there’s one more thing I forgot to mention.

THESE GUYS WERE ALL FIGHTING 15 ROUND TITLE FIGHTS…

Thanks you!





Ben Tomkins
Ben Tomkins is a violinist, teacher, journalist and critically acclaimed composer currently living in Denver, Colorado. He hates stupidity and generally believes that the volume of one’s voice is inversely proportional to one’s knowledge of an issue. Reach Ben Tomkins at BenTomkins@DaytonCityPaper.com.

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